Mullet Effect on @bansheebikes V3 models - Phantom and Titan

2/14/2020

It is no secret I love the way a Mullet bike feels.... be it the wheels, or because my height feels between a 29 and a 27.5 wheel size... whatever it is, I love riding Mullet Bikes!
What will follow will be a re-count of how the change to a 27.5 Rear wheel on the Phantom V3 and Titan effect the geometry figures.

The following is just the measure change in degrees or millimeters, not the angles observed. With these number you can transpose those based on the geometry figures outlined by banshee, but don't forget to account also for fork axle/crown changes as well.

Here is how these two were set up for the measurements:
PHANTOM V3 - 140 Fox 34 - Seatpost @730mm
TITAN - 170 Z1 - Seatpost @730mm
When wheels were changed the tire type was kept identical, just the diameter changed.

Figures were pretty similar, and no.. they are likely not 100% Accurate, but, they will give you a good idea how the mullet set-up will effect the bikes geometry.

NOW.... GO RIDE #MOREAWESOMER

7 Comments

Jason

7/7/2020 05:12:09

Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems then you could preserve the 29er rear geometry vs. the low setting by switching to the neutral with the 27.5. I see on the Titan, you were in the neutral for both and the Phantom you were in the low for both.

Brandon

7/7/2020 06:45:11

I did the measurements more so to get an idea of the change numbers, then the difference could be applied the different dropout positions.

As an extra note... ended up preferring the titan in 29r, rear wheel rollover and traction was better🤘

Ben

8/1/2020 13:48:51

Do you have a review of how it handled anywhere? I’d love to hear a lot more of how these bikes specifically felt post transformation. Seat angle, pedal ability, cornering differences etc.

DirtMurderR

8/1/2020 13:56:18

Hey, so here is what I really noticed.
The handling effect was noticeable, the rear end did have a slightly faster/nimbler feel to it.. however..... I was also riding a shorter travel full 29r Following MB at the time and I could not figure out why it felt faster and more composed.
So, swapped back to full 29r and the speed, rollover and impact dampening was noticeable. The full 29r setup just...rode..faster.. and more composed.
So, back to full 29r and I am lovin’ it!

8/1/2020 14:03:26

Thanks for the reply! I’ve been thinking about picking one up and had the idea in the back of my head to play with that experiment. The Titan seemed like a good option for it using the flip chip as a way to offset the wheel size and preserve original geometry and pedal clearance.

What are your overall thoughts of the Titan? I haven’t seen many reviews or comparisons to other mainstream long travel 29s

Dirt_murderR

10/29/2020 20:29:53

Ben, just did an updated long term review... check it out.

https://www.inceptioncyclery.com/dirt_murderr-reviews/banshee-titan-long-term-covid-season-reflection

10/29/2020 22:17:58

Thanks for the additional info! It’s winter build project time and it sounds like something along these lines will keep me occupied

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